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Chapter 88 - Different opinions on the nature of the Lord.

88,1. The wine began to loosen the tongues of those around the tables, and they all became quite lively. Diverse opinions were aired concerning My person, and it could be said that the first schism in our church occurred at that supper. Some maintained that in a direct sense I was the supreme Deity; others said I was certainly the supreme Deity, but indirectly, not directly. Again others said that on account of My blood lineage I was only a son of David destined to be the Messiah of the Davidic kingdom and, therefore, endowed with the miraculous might of David as well as Solomon's wisdom. Still others thought that I was a high-ranking angel from the Heavens now walking the earth in the flesh accompanied by an assistant from the Heavens.

88,2. Some, together with several of My apostles, declared Me to be the Son of the Most High. I was said to have the same attributes as My Father without doubt, but that I was a different person, and that it could well be that the frequently mentioned Spirit of God was after all a third person who in certain matters had an independent say.

88,3. This opinion was only shared by a few. Some asked Peter what his opinion was.

88,4. Peter then said: "When we travelled in this district, the Lord Himself questioned us about Who the people and, finally, we ourselves, thought Him to be. On that occasion this and that opinion was voiced and when finally He asked Me, I said immediately and from the bottom of My heart: 'You are the Son of the Most High!' And He was completely satisfied with my testimony and even called me a rock on which He would build His church, saying that this church would never more be vanquished by the gates of Hell. He Himself did, therefore, confirm my opinion and I can not be wrong if I am like a rock in my belief. "

88,5. However, John was not at all in agreement with Peter and said: "In Him dwells the Godhead in Its fullness in the flesh. The Son Who is - and can be - no other person, I take to mean only His body insofar as it is a means to an end but, as an entity, He is identical with the Deity dwelling within Him in all its fullness.

88,6. Or could you say that my body and my soul are two different persons? Do the two not constitute one human being, although the soul at the beginning of my life had to form this body so that one could actually say: The soul has clothed itself with a second, material man and, thus, enclosed itself in another entity? One could certainly say that the body is a son or a product of the soul, but that does not mean that it represents a second person, either with it and even less without it. This can be said even less about the spirit within the soul, for what would a soul be without the divine spirit within? It will not be a complete man until it has been fully permeated by this spirit. It is then true to say that spirit, soul and body are completely one and the same personality.

88,7. It is moreover written: 'God created man in His image.' Therefore, since man, as a complete image of God comprising spirit, soul and body, constitutes just one man, not three, it stands to reason that God, as the most perfect primeval Spirit, clothed with an equally perfect soul and now visible before our eyes in a body, can only be one God, never a Holy Trinity separated into three persons. - This is my opinion, and although I do not claim to be a rock in my beliefs, I shall always adhere to it.

88,8. All those at My table say: “John has spoken the truth!”

88,9. Now Peter wishes to correct himself and says: "Yes, this is precisely what I mean, but I am not gifted with sufficient fluency to put my thoughts quickly into words; this matter will anyway always be somewhat difficult to comprehend."

88,10. John says: "Yes and no. According to your way, no man on this earth will ever comprehend it, but he will quite easily, I believe, according to my way of thinking. The Lord Himself shall now be the arbitrator between us."

88,11. I say to them: "Faith can do many things, but love can do everything. You, Simon Juda, are indeed a rock where it comes to faith, but John is a pure diamond where love is concerned and his insight therefore penetrates more deeply than your own. He is, therefore, My personal scribe with the task of recording many matters for Me which are still riddles to you. There is scope for many facets in a love like his, but in faith there is only room for certainty and then the cry is 'so far and no further!' Just cling to the declaration by My favoured one as he will portray Me to the world in a perfect way."

88,12. Thereupon Peter becomes slightly embarrassed and from then on he is secretly always a little jealous of John. And this is why Peter, after My resurrection, when I told him to follow Me and tend My sheep, found fault with John for following Me without being called. I rebuked Peter for this, promising John true eternal life, - which gave rise to the popular rumour that this disciple was never to die, not even in the flesh.

88,13. However, Peter asked John how he managed always to show much deeper insight and cognition than he, Peter, did himself.

88,14. John’s answer was: “look here, I do not dwell in your soul nor you in mine, and I do not have a yardstick enabling me to determine why my opinion is more full of insight and more correct! But since the Lord has explained to us in a loud voice the difference between belief and love, then take this as the answer to your question! It is a fact that only the Lord can examine our inner workings and He will therefore know very precisely, what the difference is between our souls.”

88,15. Peter was content with this answer the time being and asked nothing more. But now the meal also ended. We got up and all of us went up the mountain.

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