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40,1. Immediately Lazarus ordered new wine and said: “The great and the very exalted teaching which we have now heard from Your godly mouth must also be confirmed by a new wine and be sealed in our heart.
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1. Immediately Lazarus ordered new wine and said: "The great and exalted teaching we have now heard Your divine mouth utter must also be confirmed with a new wine, and sealed in our very hearts."
  
40,2. I said: “You are right about that, friend and brother Lazarus. All that which is good and true has its complete correspondence in bread and wine. Therefore, you can be assured that after Me when you moderately will be using bread and wine in remembrance of Me, that I will be in the spirit, as now in the body, personally among you My children, brothers and friends until the end of all times of this Earth. Surely, you will not always see Me with the eyes of your body, but then still, your heart will tell you: ‘Rejoice, for your Lord, God and Father is among you and is blessing the bread and wine for you. Therefore, be joyful and cheerful in His name, and remember by that the poor brothers and sisters, and more precisely the poor in spirit.
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2. Said I: "Friend and brother Lazarus, how very right you are! All that which is good and true has its complete correspondence in the bread and wine. Therefore, after you have modestly savored the bread and wine in remembrance of Me, you may rest assured that I will personally dwell among you My children, brothers and friends, in spirit, as now in the body, until the end of all times of this earth. Sure, you may not always behold Me with the eyes of your body, but even then, your heart will tell you: 'Rejoice, for your Lord, your God and Father, is among you, and He blesses the bread and wine for you! So be joyous and cheerful in His name and remember the poor brothers and sisters, especially the poor in spirit.'
  
40,3. When your heart will give you such a stimulation, remember and always believe that I will be personally among you, and whatever you will then ask Me which is good and true for the life of your soul, I will always very willingly give in an easily understandable way.
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3. So, when your heart provides such a stimulation, remember and always believe that I will be personally among you, and whatever you may ask of Me, if it is good and true for the life of your soul, then I will always willingly give you what you seek, in an easily understandable way.
  
40,4. Thus, those who will greet Me with great love in their heart will soon be able to convince themselves also with their eyes that I really am personally among them. And what I am saying and explaining here to all of you is also fully valid for all your true and faithful followers. But give Me the new wine now, for I have become thirsty.
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4. Those who greet Me with great love in their hearts will soon be able to convince themselves that I truly am among them. What I am saying and explaining here to all of you applies to all of your true and faithful followers as well. But now, hand Me the new wine, for I have become thirsty."
  
40,5. Then a very fresh and very good wine was served. I drunk, and also the others were drinking and praised the wine that by My will had been made well savored with herbs and sweetened.
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5. Thereupon a fresh and excellent wine was served. I drank, and all the others drank as well, praising the wine which My will had further flavored and sweetened.
  
40,6. When we strengthened ourselves in this way, the scribe asked once more if I was now disposed to give him an answer to what he had asked Me.
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6. After having strengthened ourselves, the scribe once again asked if I was now willing to give him an answer to what he had previously asked Me.
  
40,7. I said however: “Friend, there are still other things which are more important to talk about than the end of paganism. First, just let the morning come, and the Pharisees who are resting in the other room will depart from here. Then in the open air I will explain to you in images the how and when of the end of all that which is called world and paganism.
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7. But I said: "Friend, there are still more important things than the end of paganism to be discussed. Let dawn break first, so the Pharisees who are resting in the other room will depart. Then I will explain to you, in the open air, the end of the world and of paganism, from the how to the when. (see the Great Gospel of John Vol.8, Chapters 46+47)
  
40,8. But now we will, as already said, talk about something else that is more important for the moment than the sad and extremely distressed end of all that which is worldly and paganism. About what should we, according to you, talk firstly now, and of what are you all in real need to know and to believe?
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8. For now though, as has already been said, we will talk about something else, something more important for the time being than the gloomy and distressing end of the world and of paganism. So, what do you think we should talk about first; what is it you wish or need to know and believe?"
  
40,9. Now Peter spoke once more: “Lord, I still have something if ever I may speak also – and this I am asking You. Then I indeed have a question to ask You.”
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9. Once more Peter spoke: "Lord, I have something, and if I may speak now and ask, then I indeed have a question for You!"
  
40,10. I said: “Then speak, for everyone of you has now the right to speak and to ask.
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10. Said I: "So speak, for all of you now have the right to speak and ask."
  
40,11. Now Peter said: “Lord, Moses has prescribed for the purification of sinners certain outer means that are well known to every Jew. Must we also make use of them? Do they have for man any power that is hollowing him, and are they absolutely necessary for the attainment of the eternal life of the soul?
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11. Peter said: "Lord, Moses has prescribed certain exterior means for the purification of sinners, means that are well known to every Jew. Must we make use of them as well? Do they possess any hallowing power for man, and are they absolutely necessary for the attainment of the eternal life of the soul?
  
40,12. Must also the gentiles be circumcised if they accept the teaching, or is for them baptism sufficient? And besides the circumcision, must also the other means of purification be applied with the gentiles who have been converted to us?
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12. Must even the gentiles be circumcised if they accept Your teaching, or is baptism sufficient for them? And aside from the circumcision, must the other means of purification as well be applied to the gentiles who have been converted to us?"
  
40,13. I said: “He who is a Jew and is circumcised will also always remain circumcised, but circumcision in itself is nothing and has for nobody any secret or particular magical hollowing value for the soul.
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13. Said I: "He who is a Jew and is circumcised will always remain circumcised, but circumcision in itself is nothing and does not possess any sort of secret or particularly magical and hallowing properties for the soul.
  
40,14. Man is hollowed by nothing else except by the living faith and its actual love for God and the fellowman.
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14. Man is hallowed by nothing other than the living faith, as well as his active love for God and his fellow man.
  
40,15. However, he who has sinned against God and against his fellowman should acknowledge his sins with true repentance, ask God seriously for forgiveness, make up for the injustice that he has caused to his fellowman, and further stop from sinning. Then subsequently he is fully purified. For when he makes up for the evil and refrains from sinning, it is evident that also his sins are forgiven.
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15. However, he who has sinned against God and his fellow man must acknowledge his sins with true repentance, sincerely ask God for forgiveness, make up for the injustice he has caused, and refrain from sinning in the future. As a result, he will be fully purified, and it is self-explanatory that his sins are forgiven as well.
  
40,16. However, he who will not do that, will continuously remain entirely in all his sins and its bad consequences, even if 10.000 goats would be slaughtered and be thrown into the Jordan. This and also all the other outer means of purification do not improve nor hollow man in the least, but only his true and sincere acting according to My teaching, and the belief in his heart in the one, true God, and thus in Me.
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16. However, he who will not do as described above will continue to remain in his sins and their severe consequences, even if 10000 goats would be slaughtered and thrown into the Jordan. This and all other exterior means of purification do not improve or hallow man in the slightest; only his true and sincere conduct, according to My teaching, and the belief in his heart in the one, true God, and thus in Me, can heal him.
  
40,17. I have already told you that you should baptize in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit all those who earnestly and truly accept and are answering to My teaching and thus also Myself. For that, the laying-on of hands is sufficient, and as an outer sign of true, inner purification by God’s Spirit a washing with clean water. And this is truly sufficient for Jews and gentiles.
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17. I have already told you that you must baptize all who earnestly and truthfully accept Me and My teaching, in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. For this, the laying-on of hands is sufficient, and as an exterior sign of true and inner purification through God’s Spirit, a washing with clean water will do. This is fully sufficient for Jews and Gentiles.
  
40,18. All the rest has from now on no more value in My eyes, just like an outer prayer with the lips – no matter how long it is – has no value for Me. He who wants his prayer to be answered must go into the quiet chamber of his heart and pray to Me in full faith, then I will grant him what he has asked for.
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18. Everything else has henceforth no more value in My eyes, just as an ever so long and shallow prayer of the lips has no value to Me. He who wants his prayers to be answered must enter the quiet chamber of his heart and pray to Me in full faith, then I will grant him what he asked for.
  
40,19. I say to you once more, just as I have said already so many times before: search in everything only the truth, this will set you completely free.
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19. I tell you once more, just as I have told you so many times before: Seek only the truth in everything, for the truth is what will set you free!
  
40,20. It is very good when man is keeping his body clean according to the teaching of Moses. Through uncleanness all kinds of malicious diseases will come in the flesh and in the blood, and these are causing dislike and grief in the still weak soul. But that which is cleaning the flesh from the dirt does not clean the soul from his sins. The Jews are indeed washing their hands before and after a meal and often also their feet, and we are often not doing that, and still we are cleaner with unwashed hands than the strict Jews with always washed hands and feet.
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20. It is very good that man keeps his body clean, according to the teaching of Moses. Through uncleanness all sorts of malicious diseases will afflict the flesh and the blood, which, in turn, beget reluctance and grief in the still weak soul. However, that which cleanses the flesh of the dirt does not cleanse the soul of its sins. The Jews indeed wash their hands, and often even their feet, before and after a meal. On the other hand, we do not do this, and yet we are still cleaner with unwashed hands than the strict Jews with always washed hands and feet.
  
40,21. And now, short and good: no outer way of purification has a hollowing effect on the inner man, but only the living faith in the truth, and the love and the good works thereof. Did you understand this now?
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21. And now, just to make it clear: no exterior means of purification has a hallowing effect on the inner man; only the living faith in the truth, and the love and the good works thereof have such an effect. Have you understood this now?"
  
40,22. Peter said: “Then it is also not necessary anymore in the future that we should bless the marriages like the temple priests?
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22. Peter said: "So, in the future, it is not necessary for us to bless the marriages like the priests of the temple do?"
  
40,23. I said: “As such, not at all, because the marriage bond is sufficiently sealed by the mutual promise in the presence of the parents or other true witnesses. However, if in a community that you will have established in My name, you have marriages that you have recognized as good and will bless them in My name, then this will be beneficial as a confirmation of their commitment. This need only to be done as a service of love based on your good will.
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23. Said I: "Actually, you will not have to bless them at all, because the bond of matrimony is sufficiently sealed by the mutual promise in the presence of both parties' parents or other truthful witnesses. However, in a community you will have established in My name, if there are marriages that you have recognized as good and you bless them in My name, then this will be beneficial as a confirmation of their commitment. May this only be done as a service of love based on your good will.
  
40,24. I am only giving you this as a good advice and not as a law. And therefore, you also should not make a law of it, because tonight I have shown you more than sufficiently what kind of negative influences that coercing laws have on souls with a free will, as well as its inescapable consequences. And therefore you should only act freely out of true and pure love and never out of a coercing commandment. Only from this, will My true disciples be recognized, namely from the fact that among one another, they only practice the free law of love, and are loving one another mutually, just as I am now loving you all.
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24. This is merely potent advice I give you here, not a law or a commandment. And as such, you must not transform into a law either, because tonight I have shown you all too clearly what kinds of negative effects forced laws can have on souls with a free will, as well as their inescapable consequences. Therefore, may everything you do be an act of true and pure love, never of a forced commandment. Only by this will My true disciples be recognized, namely that among themselves, they only practice the free law of love, loving one another, just as I love all of you.
  
40,25. But such a paid blessing of a marriage by an authoritarian and proud priest in or outside the temple has for Me not the least of value, but only My greatest displeasure. And whatever is displeasing to Me is certainly also in contradiction with My order and is an evil and a sin that truly will bring no blessing to anyone. If you have well understood this, then do also act like it, then you will do well.
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25. On the flipside, a paid blessing of a marriage by an authoritarian and arrogant priest in or outside the temple is of no value to Me at all. I am greatly displeased by acts such as this, and whatever displeases Me is certainly in contradiction to My order as well; it is an evil and a sin that will bring no blessings to anyone. Should you have understood this now, do act accordingly. Then you will surely do well!" (rev. ph 2021-10-23)
  
 
40,26. Then Agricola said: “Lord and Master, then we Romans will also do well if we will handle our marriages likewise. And what is Your opinion concerning polygamy? Are You for or against it?”
 
40,26. Then Agricola said: “Lord and Master, then we Romans will also do well if we will handle our marriages likewise. And what is Your opinion concerning polygamy? Are You for or against it?”

Latest revision as of 23:56, 23 October 2021

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(AUDIO/VIDEO/TEXT Marriage Blessing, Bread and Wine & Ceremonies, Volume 8 – Chapter 40)

Chapter 40 - The meaning of bread and wine. About the ceremonies.

1. Immediately Lazarus ordered new wine and said: "The great and exalted teaching we have now heard Your divine mouth utter must also be confirmed with a new wine, and sealed in our very hearts."

2. Said I: "Friend and brother Lazarus, how very right you are! All that which is good and true has its complete correspondence in the bread and wine. Therefore, after you have modestly savored the bread and wine in remembrance of Me, you may rest assured that I will personally dwell among you My children, brothers and friends, in spirit, as now in the body, until the end of all times of this earth. Sure, you may not always behold Me with the eyes of your body, but even then, your heart will tell you: 'Rejoice, for your Lord, your God and Father, is among you, and He blesses the bread and wine for you! So be joyous and cheerful in His name and remember the poor brothers and sisters, especially the poor in spirit.'

3. So, when your heart provides such a stimulation, remember and always believe that I will be personally among you, and whatever you may ask of Me, if it is good and true for the life of your soul, then I will always willingly give you what you seek, in an easily understandable way.

4. Those who greet Me with great love in their hearts will soon be able to convince themselves that I truly am among them. What I am saying and explaining here to all of you applies to all of your true and faithful followers as well. But now, hand Me the new wine, for I have become thirsty."

5. Thereupon a fresh and excellent wine was served. I drank, and all the others drank as well, praising the wine which My will had further flavored and sweetened.

6. After having strengthened ourselves, the scribe once again asked if I was now willing to give him an answer to what he had previously asked Me.

7. But I said: "Friend, there are still more important things than the end of paganism to be discussed. Let dawn break first, so the Pharisees who are resting in the other room will depart. Then I will explain to you, in the open air, the end of the world and of paganism, from the how to the when. (see the Great Gospel of John Vol.8, Chapters 46+47)

8. For now though, as has already been said, we will talk about something else, something more important for the time being than the gloomy and distressing end of the world and of paganism. So, what do you think we should talk about first; what is it you wish or need to know and believe?"

9. Once more Peter spoke: "Lord, I have something, and if I may speak now and ask, then I indeed have a question for You!"

10. Said I: "So speak, for all of you now have the right to speak and ask."

11. Peter said: "Lord, Moses has prescribed certain exterior means for the purification of sinners, means that are well known to every Jew. Must we make use of them as well? Do they possess any hallowing power for man, and are they absolutely necessary for the attainment of the eternal life of the soul?

12. Must even the gentiles be circumcised if they accept Your teaching, or is baptism sufficient for them? And aside from the circumcision, must the other means of purification as well be applied to the gentiles who have been converted to us?"

13. Said I: "He who is a Jew and is circumcised will always remain circumcised, but circumcision in itself is nothing and does not possess any sort of secret or particularly magical and hallowing properties for the soul.

14. Man is hallowed by nothing other than the living faith, as well as his active love for God and his fellow man.

15. However, he who has sinned against God and his fellow man must acknowledge his sins with true repentance, sincerely ask God for forgiveness, make up for the injustice he has caused, and refrain from sinning in the future. As a result, he will be fully purified, and it is self-explanatory that his sins are forgiven as well.

16. However, he who will not do as described above will continue to remain in his sins and their severe consequences, even if 10000 goats would be slaughtered and thrown into the Jordan. This and all other exterior means of purification do not improve or hallow man in the slightest; only his true and sincere conduct, according to My teaching, and the belief in his heart in the one, true God, and thus in Me, can heal him.

17. I have already told you that you must baptize all who earnestly and truthfully accept Me and My teaching, in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. For this, the laying-on of hands is sufficient, and as an exterior sign of true and inner purification through God’s Spirit, a washing with clean water will do. This is fully sufficient for Jews and Gentiles.

18. Everything else has henceforth no more value in My eyes, just as an ever so long and shallow prayer of the lips has no value to Me. He who wants his prayers to be answered must enter the quiet chamber of his heart and pray to Me in full faith, then I will grant him what he asked for.

19. I tell you once more, just as I have told you so many times before: Seek only the truth in everything, for the truth is what will set you free!

20. It is very good that man keeps his body clean, according to the teaching of Moses. Through uncleanness all sorts of malicious diseases will afflict the flesh and the blood, which, in turn, beget reluctance and grief in the still weak soul. However, that which cleanses the flesh of the dirt does not cleanse the soul of its sins. The Jews indeed wash their hands, and often even their feet, before and after a meal. On the other hand, we do not do this, and yet we are still cleaner with unwashed hands than the strict Jews with always washed hands and feet.

21. And now, just to make it clear: no exterior means of purification has a hallowing effect on the inner man; only the living faith in the truth, and the love and the good works thereof have such an effect. Have you understood this now?"

22. Peter said: "So, in the future, it is not necessary for us to bless the marriages like the priests of the temple do?"

23. Said I: "Actually, you will not have to bless them at all, because the bond of matrimony is sufficiently sealed by the mutual promise in the presence of both parties' parents or other truthful witnesses. However, in a community you will have established in My name, if there are marriages that you have recognized as good and you bless them in My name, then this will be beneficial as a confirmation of their commitment. May this only be done as a service of love based on your good will.

24. This is merely potent advice I give you here, not a law or a commandment. And as such, you must not transform into a law either, because tonight I have shown you all too clearly what kinds of negative effects forced laws can have on souls with a free will, as well as their inescapable consequences. Therefore, may everything you do be an act of true and pure love, never of a forced commandment. Only by this will My true disciples be recognized, namely that among themselves, they only practice the free law of love, loving one another, just as I love all of you.

25. On the flipside, a paid blessing of a marriage by an authoritarian and arrogant priest in or outside the temple is of no value to Me at all. I am greatly displeased by acts such as this, and whatever displeases Me is certainly in contradiction to My order as well; it is an evil and a sin that will bring no blessings to anyone. Should you have understood this now, do act accordingly. Then you will surely do well!" (rev. ph 2021-10-23)

40,26. Then Agricola said: “Lord and Master, then we Romans will also do well if we will handle our marriages likewise. And what is Your opinion concerning polygamy? Are You for or against it?”

Main Page The great Gospel of John Volume 8 GGJ08-40 Chapter